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More on bread and starter

I’ve now made my third multi-grain sourdough bread, from here. For those adventurous souls who plan to embark on this three-day bread I have some thoughts. My amateur advice may not be worth much, but something I always find frustrating about recipes is that they don’t tell you about the mistakes. ( Though Breadtopia has a good deal of comment-discussion about things that go wrong for others, so that is worth a perusal.) The thing about this bread is that there are a lot of opportunities for things to go wrong, when you have multiple days each step is a little nerve-racking. But the encouraging thing is that its a pretty resilient bread and all my mistakes have resulted in something different, rather than disastrous.

Notes on the first step: getting the starter working. Depending on its level of activity, or the last time you fed it, it can take a couple days to get going. Start with just a scant 1/4 of a cup, because you don’t need much for the bread. You will add an 1/8 cup of water and an 1/8 cup of (white) flour. You will then have a total of a 1/2 cup and your next feeding will continue this ratio of equal parts water to flour, doubling the amount of starter. So you can see how much you can make very quickly. If your starter is particularly dormant then you will need to feed it for longer, thus making more starter. You can dump some out and keep the level down…but! If you don’t want to do this you can plan a very delicious waffle breakfast after starting your bread. See this post for recipes. Using the starter means the phytic acid in the wheat is neutralized so its not blocking the nutrients in the other good stuff on the waffle. I used all white just to go full on pastry texture, but you could mix in whole wheat or other the night before.

whole milk Nancys yogurt, Almond Butter, Grade B Maple Syrup, raw butter, and late spring Strawberries

Whole Milk Nancy's yogurt (which is pretty much like ice cream), Almond Butter, Grade B Maple Syrup, Raw Butter, and Late Spring Strawberries

Okay, back to the bread. So the first step is basically making a bowl of whole wheat starter and letting it sit, covered (plastic bag works well) for 12 hours. Breadtopia suggests this be the “evening of day one” but my schedule is weird and time to make bread varies so sometimes I use different 12hr periods, depending.

12 hrs from mixing together the starter and WW flour, you add the rest of the flours (spelt, rye, white, more WW) more water and salt. As much attention as the no-knead bread has gotten, I think that the kneading step is not just fun for the sake of bread making, but useful for getting a good sense of how the dough is doing. I once made the no-knead and couldn’t tell that is hadn’t risen (too long a proof and not very strong starter) until it was out of the oven, because you aren’t touching it and seeing how it feels. So this step of kneading for ten minutes is useful, and good exercise. I look at the clock to make sure I do a full ten (otherwise I’m too lazy).

The kneaded dough then goes in a bowl, covered with the same plastic bag, in the refrigerator to 24 hrs. This stage is where you can be more flexible about the timing. The first time I made the the end of the 24hrs ended up being at 8am, which was before work, but! it needs to sit and get warm and comfy for another 5hrs before going in the oven. I ended up coming home during lunch and baking it. This is a totally avoidable situation. If you find that the timing doesn’t line up for taking it out of the fridge and then baking 5hrs later, you can punch down the dough in the fridge before its fully rise (that is before the first 24hrs) and let it go another 24 or so. Ex: First step at 8pm Monday, second (mixing dough, kneading) at 8 am Tuesday, 24hrs later is 8am Wednesday but I don’t have time to deal with it then- so at 5pm on Tuesday I punch it down. Now, I am set to take it out at 5pm Wednesday and bake at 10pm (which works for me).

This is a lot for bread, I realize. And I think in the last post on this I admitted that it is probably too much and gives a good argument for specialization. But its interesting and delicious, very nourishing and getting easier. Plus, it turns out well even when not perfect.

Last loaf: I took it out of the fridge at 5pm and let it sit covered with plastic in the bowl until 10 (at 9:30 I pre-heated the oven, with the dutch oven inside). But, that isn’t whats supposed to happen. For some reason I completely forgot the step of taking it out of the bowl, forming a “boule” and putting it in on a floured towel, and then back in the bowl (covered, not with plastic, but more floured towel). I realized this as the action to put it in the smoking hot dutch oven felt different then before. But it was too late at that point and I just waited a half hour to see what happened.

Maybe not bakery-goods, but it was no fail.

I even think the crumb (the quality of holes in the interior, usually indicating moist, chewyness) turned out better than the last. The texture of the crust is different, but I woulnd’t even call it weird. That’s the thing with baking, often the variation is just that- not a mistake but a new way, a new texture, a new flavor. Punching down the dough and letting proof longer makes a more sour dough and really works the fermentation, that was a surprise and a delight (to avoid this acutally use more starter). Again, I don’t really know how useful it is for us all to be making our own bread, but I like to eat something and to know just how it got to be the way it is.

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3 Comments

  1. Julie wrote:

    Hi Sage, got to you via cheeseslave. I am very intrigued by your sourdough bread making. I have been grinding wheat and making bread for decades, but recently have cut way back due to what I have read about excess carbs and also the need to soak and or ferment grains to make them digestible. So, I find myself missing bread but at the same time wanting to eat a good bread. Please point me in the right direction as to where to start with making good slow rise bread–I’m not sure where to start, a book on it? is there a posting in your site that I should start with? Where does one get sourdough starters? etc. I appreciate your time.

    Thursday, May 7, 2009 at 6:24 am | Permalink
  2. Sage wrote:

    Julie,

    The recipe for this bread that I have been working with is this from Breadtopia. This site is pretty thorough on breadmaking and I think the videos are more helpful then a book because so much about the baking process is about feel and texture and how things look as you go, so it is nice to see all of this live.

    Sourdough starters are in abundance if you know where to look. Breadtopia sells them, but if it were up to me you could only get them for free…since anyone who uses a starter is always making more in the feeding process and always has excess. It’s sort of like selling kitchen scraps to someone who wants to make compost. So really a sourdough-making friend is the best source. I got mine from a woman in her 80’s who is spritely as all get out and does a lot of fermentation generally. I might suggest a craigslist post, but you would want to make sure the person was baking with it regularly and has had some luck.

    You can also make your own starter. Breadtopia really has a ton of useful information about this stuff.

    I hear you on wanting to eat good bread while knowing how tough grains are on our systems. I think this long-ferment breads are a great solution and they are really satisfying to create.

    Here is the first long-proof sourdough bread I tried about a year ago. It is the no-knead bread which is fun, but I like the current version better.

    Good luck and keep in touch!

    Thursday, May 7, 2009 at 9:13 pm | Permalink
  3. Julie wrote:

    Thank you, Sage. Will keep you posted on my luck with your method. Have you made any bread from the book called “Artisan bread in 5 minutes a day?” I’ve been hearing lots of good about it, but wasn’t sure how it rates as far as producing a bread that is good on the gut.

    Friday, May 8, 2009 at 6:25 am | Permalink

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